Unchained Preppers
General Category => Security & Survival => Topic started by: rah45 on June 30, 2012, 07:55:07 PM
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This subject occurred to me today, shortly after I learned that Georgia hit 106 degrees. I was forced to wear shorts and flip-flops on a brief foray around town instead of my usual pants and water-proof boots. If I had to run or even walk a significant distance under pressure in hostile vegetation (not in the city, but you get my meaning), I would have been in trouble. However, had I worn those pants and boots, in a WROL situation I could very well become dehydrated if the temperature was anything like today. What are your thoughts regarding this problem? Possible solutions?
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A good tough T shirt. Maybe those pants that have removeable legs. And a some tennis shoes.
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Loose fitting clothes - full sleeves and unbloused boots. if you get air circulating between that layer and your skin it'll help. A good sunhat (like a wide brim boonie with good vents) will help protect your neck. Keep the hair cut short but not too short - the sweat evaporation helps cool you. And drink water even if you're not thirsty. By the time you feel thirst you're in the initial stages of heat exhaustion. But don't just guzzle - too much water can lead to hyponatremia. Got a nalgene or water bottle? Cover it with a wool sock and keep that sock wet and in a breeze - the evap cooling will make the water just a little easier to drink.
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Can't get around in flip flops? seriously?
Dude i walk, hike, and run around barefoot outside constantly, toughen those feet up boy, that's why they are there.
I dunno, maybe that barefoot Arkansan stereotype is true. :))
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i didnt really wear shoes in the summer until i was like 14 and i stepped on broken glass
kind killed he fun of it for me
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i didnt really wear shoes in the summer until i was like 14 and i stepped on broken glass
kind killed he fun of it for me
Yeah, I have like 35 acres I roam around on (no broken glass here) but fuck i didn't think that through.
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i didnt really wear shoes in the summer until i was like 14 and i stepped on broken glass
kind killed he fun of it for me
I knew a kid back when I was a teen that did that all summer long. He got ringworm at 14 (can ya imagine trying to pick up chicks at 14 with ringworm?) and that was that.
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my house backed up to national forest so i was running through there, i hit the one piece of glass in that section of the woods [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
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my house backed up to national forest so i was running through there, i hit the one piece of glass in that section of the woods [img]http://www.arrse.co.uk/at
That's a damn shame - that people don't polcie after themselves on public lands. But it could have been worse. I read on another prepper forum about a couple that was hiking in a national forest up in the northwest and his wife sat on a used syringe. That was a real horror story because they had to hike out to get treatment.
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i didnt really wear shoes in the summer until i was like 14 and i stepped on broken glass
kind killed he fun of it for me
Yeah, I have like 35 acres I roam around on (no broken glass here) but fuck i didn't think that through.
Teva sandals = The barefoot compromise
In the past I've worn them year round...even in the snow, with wool socks of course.
I've had to give up my sandal wearing now that I'm in the city...too many hypodermic needles laying around (no joke)...I nearly got stuck with one while wearing Crocs....It's real shoes for me until I can get out of this city for good.
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not trying to sound sarcastic here, but if it were full-on WROL, maybe intense heat (and the problem of clothing) would keep you close to home? in other words, don't go out wandering when conditions don't permit it (unless it's an emergency and you have no choice). of course, trouble could always come find you even at home, so this solution isn't 100%, but simply staying home would probably eliminate the majority of threat possibilities.
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not trying to sound sarcastic here, but if it were full-on WROL, maybe intense heat (and the problem of clothing) would keep you close to home? in other words, don't go out wandering when conditions don't permit it (unless it's an emergency and you have no choice). of course, trouble could always come find you even at home, so this solution isn't 100%, but simply staying home would probably eliminate the majority of threat possibilities.
bingo
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not trying to sound sarcastic here, but if it were full-on WROL, maybe intense heat (and the problem of clothing) would keep you close to home? in other words, don't go out wandering when conditions don't permit it (unless it's an emergency and you have no choice). of course, trouble could always come find you even at home, so this solution isn't 100%, but simply staying home would probably eliminate the majority of threat possibilities.
bingo
I agree, unless you're stuck in a situation (temporary or permanent) where you need to do extensive walking for essentials. What if it's a mile to the nearest water source? Lots of situations in which you'd be in danger of heat stroke if you wore pants and boots that hold heat inside much better, but you still have to get out and do some work during a hot portion of the day.
I understand what some of the rural guys here have said about being barefoot, but I've seen too much broken glass, nails, shredded aluminum cans, etc laying around in urban areas to trust wearing anything but boots here. Even wearing tennis shoes here, I have stepped on nails that have completely penetrated the sole of my shoe and slightly punctured my skin. If that nail gave you tetanus...you might be dead. In my travels to rural areas (usually friends' or relatives' domains), I have encountered numerous sections of old, rusty barbed wire lying on the ground, just waiting to stab some unsuspecting person's foot. I can only assume the wire was used to keep livestock penned at some point, but the owners don't ever take it down - nature does.
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you should be watching what your stepping on already regardless of what your shoes are
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@mountainredneck2051
Yeah yeah yeah. I'm aware of the yuppie liberal stigma attached to Crocs, that's what kept me from ever considering them for years. But last summer, when I was in the market for a new pair of sandals, I saw some brown Crocs with the back-strap on sale...so I tried on a pair. I was torn about buying because they were so comfortable.....but I eventually broke down and bought them. So glad I did. By far they're the most comfortable AND sturdy pair of loafing shoes I have ever owned. They've held up much better than any pair of higher priced Teva sandals I've had. Laugh if you must, but all I can say is DON'T KNOCK THEM UNTIL YOU TRY THEM!
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Loose fitting clothes - full sleeves and unbloused boots. if you get air circulating between that layer and your skin it'll help. A good sunhat (like a wide brim boonie with good vents) will help protect your neck. Keep the hair cut short but not too short - the sweat evaporation helps cool you. And drink water even if you're not thirsty. By the time you feel thirst you're in the initial stages of heat exhaustion. But don't just guzzle - too much water can lead to hyponatremia. Got a nalgene or water bottle? Cover it with a wool sock and keep that sock wet and in a breeze - the evap cooling will make the water just a little easier to drink.
Excellent advice.
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I really is good advise isn't it EJR? I really like the part about not pounding water and how you are already in trouble by the time you are thirsty.
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@mountainredneck2051
Yeah yeah yeah. I'm aware of the yuppie liberal stigma attached to Crocs,
its not that at all, i just think its about the dumbest shoes i ever seen
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@mountainredneck2051
Yeah yeah yeah. I'm aware of the yuppie liberal stigma attached to Crocs,
its not that at all, i just think its about the dumbest shoes i ever seen
Really? Dumber than these? http://straightprep.com/forum/index.php?topic=2544.msg28008#msg28008 (http://straightprep.com/forum/index.php?topic=2544.msg28008#msg28008)
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@mountainredneck2051
Yeah yeah yeah. I'm aware of the yuppie liberal stigma attached to Crocs,
its not that at all, i just think its about the dumbest shoes i ever seen
Really? Dumber than these? http://straightprep.com/forum/index.php?topic=2544.msg28008#msg28008 (http://straightprep.com/forum/index.php?topic=2544.msg28008#msg28008)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!
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i stand corrected, there are dumber out there.........
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Fugly!
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Really? Dumber than these? http://straightprep.com/forum/index.php?topic=2544.msg28008#msg28008 (http://straightprep.com/forum/index.php?topic=2544.msg28008#msg28008)
I was so nervous when I saw that in house link!
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Hey fuck yall Those are the best shoes I have ever had!
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now look who got their jimmies rustled!
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Hey fuck yall Those are the best shoes I have ever had!
Until you break a toe.
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now look who got their jimmies rustled!
Jimmies have officially been rustled! :))
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all this talk about footwear... I'm not 100% sure how this comes into play for this topic. i mean, obviously workboots lock in more heat than sandals or "toe shoes"... ::)... but since when did feet become the most important area to keep cool? for five years I've worked in brutal south-Louisiana heat and my workboots were never an issue. In my experience, everything from the waist up is what needs to be kept cool. keeping your cute little toes cool is a luxury.
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all this talk about footwear... I'm not 100% sure how this comes into play for this topic. i mean, obviously workboots lock in more heat than sandals or "toe shoes"... ::)... but since when did feet become the most important area to keep cool? for five years I've worked in brutal south-Louisiana heat and my workboots were never an issue. In my experience, everything from the waist up is what needs to be kept cool. keeping your cute little toes cool is a luxury.
yeah i wear 1000gram insulated boots year round and you don't see me bitching either
just pound water and take continuous breaks in the shade so you don't get heat stroke
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Maybe it's just me, but if my feet are in boots they tend to become hotter than if I were to wear tennis shoes or sandals. I sweat 2x as much when I wear boots as when i wear sandals, and close to that when I wear tennis shoes. I take off my boots when I enter my house after work, and within 20 minutes I feel what has to be 5 degrees cooler. This isn't really an issue today, but we're talking about a scenario in which you may not have the luxury of a readily available (and safe) water source that you can depend on for re-hydration, making the amount your feet sweat and your total body temperature (and therefore how much the rest of your body sweats) something to monitor closely.