Unchained Preppers
Off Topic/ B.S. => General Off Topic => Topic started by: EJR914 on August 07, 2012, 04:19:43 PM
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Please pray for me and/or send me all the positive thoughts that you can, even if you're an atheist.
Here is the story. Saturday night my lower back started hurting really bad, more than normal. I've lived with moderate to severe back pain because of three herniated disc and a fourth completely degenerated disc for some years now, but Saturday night it started to hurt worse than any pain I've ever felt before.
Also, I'll go ahead and say it, NEVER GO TO NEWTON MEDICAL CENTER EMERGENCY ROOM if you're in severe pain, they will not believe you, and probably outright call you a junkie.
Literally, ever move I make, and sometimes I'm not even moving, and the pain is so excruciating that I scream out in pain, and when it doesn't stop I just sit there and scream and cry and kick my legs around. Its the worse pain I've ever felt in my life.
I cannot walk, I cannot stand up, and I can't even roll over in bed without excruciating pain. I just cannot even get up and walk or even stand, even to go to the bathroom. Someone has to help me turn over in bed, and the only relief I can get is to stay in one certain spot and not move, and even then the horrible pain still comes on for no reason at all.
The first day I could not walk to get into a vehicle so they could take me to the ER. The second morning of the pain it just kept getting worse, and so I took the strongest, legally prescribed pain medicine that I had, and just bulldawged my way into the vehicle, kicking, screaming and crying, with two of my biggest friends carrying me by the shoulders.
Once at the ER, they sat me in a wheel chair which is incredibly painful for someone having this kind of pain, it offers no back support what-so-ever, and was straight up and down a 90 degree angle. I sat there and screamed and cried out loud and kick my legs in the ER for 8 hours, before they finally took me back, and gave me one simple shot of demerol and it barely even touched the pain. It was so embarrassing to have all those people staring at me, screaming out loud, crying, and kick my legs for that long. I even made a couple of children who were in the ER cry, I guess because I scared them because of all the pain I was having. I felt awful about that, but there was nothing I could do about it. Legally prescribed Oxycodon will not touch the pain, either, earlier that day. Nothing they have given me so far has even touched the pain until now.
All my pain medicine and muscle relaxers had LONG run out and been gone for hours by the time they took me back to the ER.
It felt like torture, it felt inhuman, and they wouldn't even find me a cot or anything so I could lay down in, they made me sit there, screaming and crying in pain, in that uncomfortable wheel chair for 8 hours and they would do nothing to help me at all.
I saw numerous people with nothing appearing to be wrong with them at all, get called back by the nurse and walk back and get a room before I did. I had numerous people walk up to me, and they couldn't believe that I was sitting there in that much pain, nobody would do anything to help me, and nobody would take me back ahead of some of the people that didn't appear to have one single thing wrong with them. I had numerous people who were sitting in the ER with me, walk up to me and tell me they were so sorry, and they would pray for my pain to be relieved.
Then when I did finally get back there, after 8 hours, the nurses Gestapo'd myself, then separated my wife and my mother and intensely questioned us about the Oxycodon, which we made ABUNDANTLY CLEAR I was legally prescribed the medicine by a doctor, and they told me they would not give me any pain medicine, even though all of it had worn off by then. :screwy: Who on earth has brainwashed all these nurses that anybody who would dare take the regular dose of Oxycodon for a day must be some kind of a junky, that is addicted to drugs or pills? These people acted crazy. :screwy: I was basically treated like I was a junkie or something like that. Like I was making up the pain I was feeling, like the tears and screams were not real, I was so upset at all of this. Do you really think someone could cry and scream for 8 hours straight in front of them if I had been faking it? REALLY? I couldn't believe they were treating me like that. I was in shock and I was also fairly angry at this point to, basically being treated like I was doing something wrong. I only took approximately one, legally prescribed Oxycodon pill a month for years if I had bad enough pain because I had to, because I didn't need them for one thing and also I HATE taking them. I just hate the way they make me feel. This pain is the worst I have ever had in my life, and I can't believe I was in that much pain, kicking screaming and crying, and they were treating me like that! They treated me like I was a criminal or something. These people are so messed up. Its like they heard the word "Oxycodon" and then no matter what we said to them, they already had it in their brainwashed mines that I was a junky or something. :screwy: It was the most screwed up thing I have ever witnessed.
What has happened to the people in that ER to make them act that way to me?
They also just acted like they didn't care at all.
During the 8 hours I was out there, I was in so much pain and screaming, that two Christian woman I had never met before actually knelt down beside with my mother and my wife and actually prayed over me, that the pain would stop. It made me feel better that someone in there actually cared. I felt those people in the ER did not care about me being in so much pain ever.
Once the ER doctor saw me, HE KNEW I wasn't faking it, and that I needed the pain medicine. He prescribed a shot of Demerol, and another for nausea, and prescribed me all types of pain medicine, anti-inflammatory medicine, muscle relaxer medicine, and a few more things as well I think. After I took all that, it FINALLY took the edge off the pain, but it still hurts a good bit, and even now I'm still in a lot of pain but its more manageable.
I also went in today and got an MRI, but my neurosurgeon physician cannot see it until Friday, because he is in Clinic doing surgery until Friday. So I can't even get a diagnosis until then, but I'm feel the MRI is going to show that my back has gotten worse at it is hurting more now that it ever has in my life.
Depending on what is wrong, I may be looking at a disc replacement surgery. Past that I don't know what else they can do for all this pain I'm having. No way am I going to deal with all this pain by taking tons pain medicine all the time.
There is more to the story, but that is all I feel like writing now, so please pray for me and send me as much positive thoughts as you can, that my pain will at least be less, and that I can start walking again, so I can go to the bathroom and use the restroom again. Right now, I cannot even walk. I have to be carried everywhere or go to the bathroom in a bowl, its awful. Please pray for me.
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fuck brother sounds like you did some bull riding
have you tried a heating pad? i know it sounds dumb, but it relieves some of the pain
i'll pray for ya, call me up if i can help
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The pain may be unrelated to your discs. The pain you described sounds like it could be a kidney stone. There doesn't have to be blood in the urine for it to be a kidney stone, especially when the stone is not suck in the urethra, but is instead stuck higher up between the kidney and urethra. This causes the kind of pain that doesn't completely stop even when you try to remain motionless. One shot of Toradol (non-narcotic) should give quick relief. ASK FOR IT WHEN YOU RETURN TO THE ER... if the muscle relaxer you were prescribed doesn't let the stone pass.
Note: If you want faster service at the ER, you need to arrive by ambulance. I learned that the hard way.
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Ill send one up for ya as well, hope you get some relief.
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Hopefully its just a kidney stone. If you werent on meds id say start pounding beers to help pass it. Your ER experience sounded horrific im sorry man. If you had nausea before any meds id bet its a kidney stone. I remember driving up ob one of the landscapers doubled over on the riding mower puking his brains out and grabbing his back. turned out to be a kidney stone.
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...If you had nausea before any meds id bet its a kidney stone...
I'd like to add that nausea could be a symptom...but everyone reacts differently to the pain. Personally, I had no nausea the time I had a really bad stone, I had intense sweating and near fainting spells (dizzy with vision whiting out.) Everyone reacts differently.
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I will say a prayer for you EJR! Man I am sorry for how you were treated at the hospital.
My wife has sever back pain too. She receives epidermal shots of cortesone about every three months. She use to take oxyconton however it didn't react well with her. I don't know if it was just her or her dabetes.
Good luck man...I am praying for ya'.
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Sounds a lot like a stone, I've had 3 of the little bastards two 7mm and an 8mm the pain comes from the often burred little shits working their way down the 3mm tube that drains from your kidneys to the bladder and getting stuck along the way resulting in pain and muscle cramping which I suspect is doing nothing good for your already messed up back. Personal opinion follows, I will never let them perform an epidural block again for a stone. IMO Extracorporeal shock wave lithotripsy (ESWL) is the only way to go if it's a stone. Drink more water, my thoughts and sympathies are with you. By the way when the triage nurse asks about your pain on a scale of 1-10 just puke in the garbage can and you get hustled down the hall in a hurry, yeah I did that.
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Thanks guys, I mean it could be stones, but I don't know, it feels just like my back pain, with the muscle spasms, but like 1000 times more.
Please keep up the prayers and positive thoughts, I need them so much right now.
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fuck brother sounds like you did some bull riding
have you tried a heating pad? i know it sounds dumb, but it relieves some of the pain
i'll pray for ya, call me up if i can help
Actually, I've never rode a bull before. LOL Believe it or not, the back is so bad, a heating pad actually hurts it. I would call you and talk, cuz I'm bored as well, but I lost my voice practically because of all the screaming I was doing. I've talked to GAP a little bit, but I'm trying to save my voice, and its a struggle to talk at the moment.
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.....it feels just like my back pain, with the muscle spasms, but like 1000 times more.
That's exactly what everyone says with their first really bad kidney stone.
Another thing....if your thoughts have drifted from "OMG, I think I'm gonna die" TO "why can't I just hurry up and die?"......it's a kidney stone.
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It could be then. I've never had pain like this before. I guess its a huge problem if I haven't passed it sense Saturday, huh?
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It could be then. I've never had pain like this before. I guess its a huge problem if I haven't passed it sense Saturday, huh?
I got lucky and mine passed after one shot of Toradol. I've had a few since then but caught them before they got really bad....drank a lot of alkaline water (9.0pH)....it dissolves mine.
But to answer your question, if it doesn't resolve itself, something will have to be done.
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You'll be fine Sack up. http://www.smileydesign.n
Oh, yeah set yourself up with a scoped rifle and a target at 500 relieve some stress. (http://www.smileyvault.co
Seriously though, Sip some tea, sit with the heating pad and relax bro. Put your feet up.... if you can. [img)
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You'll be fine Sack up. http://www.smileydesign.n
Oh, yeah set yourself up with a scoped rifle and a target at 500 relieve some stress.
(http://www.smileyvault.co
Seriously though, Sip some tea, sit with the heating pad and relax bro. Put your feet up.... if you can. [img)
Haha, yeah, I have been sacking it up, bro, I promise. I feel like I've actually done something, dealing with that much pain. It had to be up there bro. I'd love to buy ammo and go pop off some rounds. Don't know when that will be, though.
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You are in my thoughts and prayers EJR914. Have you researched any alternative healing methods? Depending on what your doc finds out and a combination of other methods might help you out. Wish you lived closer, have a great local Chiropractor and a Energy Healer that could help you alot. Take care dude!
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No, but I will, do you know where I should start looking? I think my problem is way beyond natural healing, but then again, I've seen a man come back from almost death from cancer because he went to a natural healer and I think he's still alive today. The docs at the hospital told him there was nothing they could do to help, and those natural people healed him somehow with all these different out there stuff. I guess its worth a try, better than surgery.
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I'm sorry you're having this problem EJR, I know it must be awful. It could be a stone as was stated earlier. What those tiny things do to a man is incredible. I will pray for you and your family. I hope you feel relief soon from this affliction. Hang in there man.
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I agree that it could be a stone also..
I will offer this though and I do so with nothing but love for you. I do not intend to hurt your feelings but I will not sugar coat it either.
You need to start working out and lose some of that extra weight. Excess weight increases strain on our bodies from joints to bones while increased muscle mass helps support organs and joints.
Your call dude, you can have nothing but pain all the time. Or no time for pain except the time it takes to put pain on fools who don't know what time it is.
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I will pray to Yahweh for you now bother!! Stay Frosty!
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I will pray for you EJR I am sorry for you. I would like to give medical advice but uhm its not my thing so the best thing to do is get that MRI most ricky fucking tic. I hope you get better soon. Another thing are nurses so uptight they assume everybody going through their door is a drug user thats just fucking pathetic. 8 hours my God are people just so careless makes me fucking angry >:(
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PM Sent.
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No, but I will, do you know where I should start looking? I think my problem is way beyond natural healing, but then again, I've seen a man come back from almost death from cancer because he went to a natural healer and I think he's still alive today. The docs at the hospital told him there was nothing they could do to help, and those natural people healed him somehow with all these different out there stuff. I guess its worth a try, better than surgery.
I think a combination of traditional treatment and other alternative treatments would be smart. Figure out exactly what is going on first, see what your doc can do and his assessment of the condition. Whatever is found out, I would automatically get second opinion. Then look at alternative treatments, that could be Reiki and other forms of energy healing and Acupuncture. Also, if it turns out to be a disk issue, a Chiropractor with a strong background in alternative healing could do wonders. Hope that helps somewhat.
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PM Sent.
Must be for TG, that guys a total dick...
Wait did i just arrive at the origin of TG's name? It suddenly makes sense.. His names just an incomplete sentance.. :P
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EJR, you should have my number dude, and if not GAP can get it to you. I'm taking some much-needed time with the wife tonight, but you can text me off and on tomorrow while I'm at work if you are still bored or need someone to talk to. I can text periodically without getting into trouble. Don't hesitate if you need to talk. :)
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Don't know if any of ya'll care to see, but I find those MRI's to be pretty cool. (The technology, not the herniated disc part) LOL Here are the results of my MRI that I had taken yesterday 8/7/2012. Notice the color difference and the disc bulging out into the central nerve. I think the herniation have grown in size, since the last time I had an MRI years ago. Its not looking good for sure. Maybe I can be a candidate for disc replacement surgery.
(http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj486/ejr914/My%20Herniated%20Disc%207th%20August%202012/ElliottsHerniatedDiscPictureII.jpg)
(http://i1264.photobucket.com/albums/jj486/ejr914/My%20Herniated%20Disc%207th%20August%202012/ElliottsHerniatedDiscPic1.jpg)
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Crazy EJR, How did this injury origonally occur? I keep checking in on this thread hoping ill read you tell us your all better now. Whats the plan now, and hows the pain been as of late?
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Crazy EJR, How did this injury origonally occur? I keep checking in on this thread hoping ill read you tell us your all better now. Whats the plan now, and hows the pain been as of late?
The best I can tell, when I felt and heard and actual pop, I was 19 years old, moving a large oak tv entertainment center, and the guy above me let go, and I tried to muscle it so it wouldn't crush me against the wrought iron fence, and then boom, I felt and heard a loud pop in my back. It hurt for about a week, I put ice on it, and every once and a while it would hurt very mildly, like a tingle in my back if I really over did it and worked out a lot. Believe it or not, I was not always the fat fuck that you see now. Before my back troubles, I worked out religiously and kept in good shape. I even had six pack abs every once and a while. Well fast forward quite a few years, I was probably 26 or 25 and boom, one day it really started hurting bad, worse than anything I had felt up until that time, and BOOM! it hit me while I was in Kroger like a baseball bat to the back, while I was looking for back pain medicine, I fell to the ground screaming and crying, and I couldn't move, because every time I did I had this crazy muscle spasm. People that I had been stabbed or shot or attacked or something, scared my wife and everyone around us half to death. Every since then, it has hurt. It actually got a little better through the years as I tried to work out hard and keep the muscles ok, but then about two months ago, I was at the beach, and I tried to pick up a diaper that my daughter had dropped, and boom, I bent over wrong and I felt those same disc pop again. Same damn feeling. Well ever since then the pain has gotten worse, until last Saturday, I got another huge bomb dropped on me, even worse than before. At least this time, I thought I knew what it was, and it was.
Anyway hope that helped you understand.
The pain has gotten slightly better today, and its because I'm so hopped up on so many legal medicines that I cannot even count right now.
As I get older this will just get worse, and the doctor thinks I have a disease called degenerative disc disorder, which is something I was born with at birth if that's true.
I have an appointment coming up soon with my Neurosurgeon who burned the nerves for me and did some other procedures, and also gave me my legal medicines to try and help with the arthritis from the bones touching and getting too close back there, which are high powered anti-inflammatory. Also, he gives me a strong muscle relaxer, to help with the horrible muscle spasms although we see that is not even enough to stop the really bad ones. They also give me medicine for the leg pain and numbness, and they also give me high powered pain relievers that barely even though the horrible pain sometimes.
He will look at the MRI pictures that you saw, and make a decision on what he will think is the best action to go forward with. Either just more horrible powerful drugs that I hate taking, cuz they make me feel funny and sometimes really don't even touch the pain, and I just don't like them. I can do some very painful physical rehab and try to strengthen my muscles to an even better place, and as a last resort I guess they might do disc replacement surgery.
I live in a life of pain, day in day out, but this kind of pain is unbearable.
If SHTF right now, I'd be so screwed man. Its a horrible feeling knowing that you have to depend on other people to take care of you, I'd much rather be taking care of myself and be the one taking care of my family. Guess that wouldn't be the case if SHTF soon. But hey, if it comes to that, maybe I'll go out in a fight at least. LOL
A part of me would rather have the surgery, hope SHTF doesn't happen, and then hopefully come out on the other side totally good, (if I'm lucky) and then hopefully be completely normal again, able to do whatever I want to again, and I WILL become a PT God if that happens. I'm going to make sure of it.
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Yeah, dude that shit sucks. I'm sorry your in such a bad spot dude. I thought for sure I had slipped a disc a while back. Luckily I didn't it was just some bitch muscle issue's. But even at that, that shit sucked & I hope I never have to deal with a slipped or herniated disc.
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Yeah, dude that shit sucks. I'm sorry your in such a bad spot dude. I thought for sure I had slipped a disc a while back. Luckily I didn't it was just some bitch muscle issue's. But even at that, that shit sucked & I hope I never have to deal with a slipped or herniated disc.
That shit can still hurt, though man. Thanks. I'm so glad that you didn't have a herniated disc, because I wouldn't wish it on my worst fucking enemy to have even one man, and I've got four of these bad little fuckers acting up back there. Its like knocking out the columns holding up a roof man, it fucks up shit that you didn't know it could fuck up. Leg nerve pain and numbness, pain from arthritis cuz the bones are grinding together with nothing to stop them, you've got the muscle spasms literally ripping your back in two pieces trying to hold up the parts that the spinal cord can't hold up because of the fucked up disc. Its a fucked up situation bro, and it doesn't help I'm a fat fuck either.
I hope you never have a slipped disc either, man, I wouldn't wish this on anybody, seriously.
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A while back my neurosurgeon told me he thought I might have the triple D, (Degenerative disc disease) as well. He couldn't be sure, though. Partly because of my age. If I do have Degenerative disc disease, than I'm in for one rough life. :lol:
Degeneration of the intervertebral disc of the spine, often called "degenerative disc disease" (DDD) or "degenerative disc disorder", is a condition that can be painful and can greatly affect the quality of one's life. While disc degeneration is a normal part of aging and for most people is not a problem, for certain individuals a degenerated disc can cause severe constant chronic pain.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerative_disc_disease (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degenerative_disc_disease)
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EJR I've included you in my prayers. Me and God have had some serious conversations in recent months, we're on a first name basis. : ) I'm glad you are feeling a little relief if only from the medications. I hope and pray that continues for you and that you receive the answers that you need to get back to 100%. Most things in life take time, and this will be no different. The attitude and frame of mind that you are able to hang on to will determine your destiny. Whatever that may be. It won't be easy even if everything falls into place for you. But it is times such as you are experiencing that men's characters are tested and refined. Character never comes easy, that's why it is so valued in men. From what I've learned about you from reading your posts over time I know that you are a man of character and conviction. Hang in there buddy and pray for strength, I'll continue to add my prayers to yours.
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Thanks Sledge, I really appreciate it.
I just came back from my MRI check up. While heavily medicated, I am able to sort of stand and I can walk a little bit before the pain becomes unbearable. My doctor said that from the past MRI to the one I took the other day, three years between the two, that my L4 I believe he said, has come very close to herniating so bad that it is pinching spinal cord, and that is probably what pop I felt two months ago, and that is why it has all the sudden got so much worse.
He definitely sees me as a very good candidate for back surgery, but right now, since I'm so young, he wants to see if he can do some more injections, to first see if that will calm down all the nerve pain I'm feeling right now. The nerves are sort of inflamed back there, and the injections will calm them down, hopefully, that is the plan right now.
If the first one doesn't work for 3 to 6 months, he said there is no use doing a second one, and that then we'll start looking at some form of surgery, he didn't talk about what kind yet. He did think that one day, probably within the next 5 years, being optimistic, he will have to take out that L4 disc and replace it. He said its the one that really worries him right now.
He said the last thing that he wants for me is to cut right now, and we flip a coin, and I end up with ever WORSE or the same back pain afterwards, and then the pain is there forever, its never going away. The chances of bad things happening or the pain being the same is about 30 percent. He wants to wait until I cannot stand it anymore, before we do any type of surgery, because of the chance to have more pain or the same level of pain after the surgery.
I sort of feel like I'm getting the run around, more expensive injections, but at the same time, I totally understand everyone says the same thing, don't cut the back until you absolutely have to, so I totally understand that wisdom as well. I don't want to spend the rest of my life in a wheel chair, but I don't want to live in pain all the time anyway, because I refuse to take these horrible pain drugs, except when I just absolutely need it.
I hate these pain pills, they make me so loopy and out of it. I hate feeling like that.
Anyway, just wanted to give ya'll an update. I'll probably know more next week, or the next couple of weeks. Until then, keep praying or just sending positive thoughts. Thanks everyone.