Unchained Preppers
General Category => Security & Survival => Topic started by: PatriotSeeker on September 14, 2011, 12:31:32 PM
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Alot of badmouthing has been done towards this fine peice of siege technology. With a outstanding "Chainsaw" top grip, tactical rails under and on side to side of the pump slide, and a pistol grip with a breach type barrel front. This shotgun is one of the best when it comes to home defense and field use.
As you can see, you fire this shotgun from the hip, making your sight of fire clear and easy to transition. The top "chainsaw" grip stabalizes the barrel from jumping too high due to the pistol grip, but also makes easyer the pump reload. Much smoother and lighter when you do it from the top. Tactical piccatinny rails are found on bottom and side to side of the pump slide so that you can take full advantage of this shotgun with attachments like lasers, lights, and various other things.
The breatch barrel is great for knocking through plywood, glass, and thin structures. These things can even punch through tinted vehicle windows. Giving you the advantage on a target that is concealed.
Theres alot to say about this shotgum, some bad, and some good. But Im pleaded to announce that i will be purchasing one of these in a couple weeks and will be posting up videos.
(http://www.google.com/url?source=imgres&ct=tbn&q=http://www.impactguns.com/Data/Default/Images/uploads/mossberg/mossberg_chainsaw_b.jpg&sa=X&ei=z9RwTpfhFsmQsALgtpCDCg&ved=0CAUQ8wc4Bg&usg=AFQjCNHwP6P3secYw6H0X15-sBoLRFeyUA)
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That looks fucking hilarious :))
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Tongue in cheek?
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I think it's bad ass!
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I've seen this product before. I think it's useful for those with a physical disability that doesn't allow them to operate a pump shotgun properly.
Otherwise, it just looks "mall ninja" and over the top. It's hard enough to accurately fire a PGO shotgun from the hip, why add extraneous parts that could break at the worst possible time?
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Hello all, RON L here
Hmm, Most folks I know if they can't operate a Pump they swop out to a semi, Nopt stick a Bumber on theier forend? LOL I gues ya can, but?????
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I loved my Mossberg 500, and as long as you can throw a proper stock on this (I'm assuming its not a SBS) then its still a world class shotgun. If it is a SBS you are looking at possibly no stock EVER, and the short barrel may mean no buffer tube extension, so no 8 shot. Still... chingon. IDK if any of that is accurate, just tossing shit out there.
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IDK. The time it takes to lift the shotgun to shoulder would be cut in half if you step up your fire from the hip game. Either way, I like it better than my mossy maverick 88. I think it will do good for HD. Plus, women and children can easily use it if they can withstand the recoil. Most woman cant operate long rifles like the ones most of us have in our closet. So its good for that. What else can this be used for?
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If it is a SBS you are looking at possibly no stock EVER, and the short barrel may mean no buffer tube extension, so no 8 shot.
No, SBS's can have stocks or pistol grips or both and swap back and forth. AOW's cannot have stocks and are pistol-grip only.
But yes, the shorter the barrel the shorter the magazine tube. I like the Remington 870P SBS. It has a 14" barrel and is cutoff right at the end of the magazine tube.
IDK. The time it takes to lift the shotgun to shoulder would be cut in half if you step up your fire from the hip game. Either way, I like it better than my mossy maverick 88. I think it will do good for HD. Plus, women and children can easily use it if they can withstand the recoil. Most woman cant operate long rifles like the ones most of us have in our closet. So its good for that. What else can this be used for?
I don't even know where to even begin with this one...
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I've seen this product before. I think it's useful for those with a physical disability that doesn't allow them to operate a pump shotgun properly.
Otherwise, it just looks "mall ninja" and over the top. It's hard enough to accurately fire a PGO shotgun from the hip, why add extraneous parts that could break at the worst possible time?
Mall Ninja? Perhaps. But what will break that will cause you trouble? If the chainsaw pump grip breaks, Id like to think youd be smart enough to just use the pump. Lights lasers Etc.. If they break, who cares, you still have some 12 Ga shells ready to compensate. Its still a firearm and still needs to be respected. It can still kill, and it can save. Its a weapon. im not trying to be a dick. At all. But it just deserves a little more respect. And c'mon, for 400 bucks, hell of a deal.
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is this a joke? sorry if it isn't
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No dude, this is no joke. IT REAL LIFE!
No seriosuly, Im getting one. Maybe I can link up with 505th and thatguy to do some comparison vids?
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this is not to be a dick but everything on there is just flash to catch someones eye. What does a pump gun need besides a stock and decent sights? And $400?? those pistol grip 500's used to sell for 189. Dang have prices gotten ridiculous in the past few years.
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Really? That low, can you point me in the direction to one of those? Lol. id buy one of those for that price compared to the chainsaw. I think it will be cool to take out to the range.
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PGO shotguns have no place for HD. I'm going to start a new thread with my partners article about practical shotguns.
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Really? That low, can you point me in the direction to one of those? Lol. id buy one of those for that price compared to the chainsaw. I think it will be cool to take out to the range.
Well I haven't bought a shotgun in many years and I know prices are crazy now. Heck I only paid about 400 when I bought my M1 super90. To bad they don't sell those any more but I suppose they would be like 1500 now.
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PGO shotguns have no place for HD. I'm going to start a new thread with my partners article about practical shotguns.
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I would love to run that against my Remington 870 Patriot!
Keep your eye on the Big Five ads locally. I picked mine up for $340ish and it was just like you see it in the nacho vid.. well minus the rust, I added that myself.
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when you go to buy this at the store i hope the guy behind the counter slaps you
please god let this be a joke...........
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Be nice Redneck.
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haha... now THATS some novelty shit right there... i hope your kidding dude, dont seriously buy that thing. the chansaw grip that is.
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I would love to run that against my Remington 870 Patriot!
I won't risk my life with that setup....I'm with you TG. I'll stick to my Rem 870.
~KP
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I would love to run that against my Remington 870 Patriot!
I won't risk my life with that setup....I'm with you TG. I'll stick to my Rem 870.
~KP
well as it is right now... id trade my 870 for that setup as sad as that is. but my situation may or may not be different then others.
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Novalty? Yes, I have been doing some stressful research on this damn shotty, and yes, you all win. To take away time by firing from the hip is never a good trade on accuracy. Im totally there with you guys now. Im still going to buy it because its really bizarre. And TG, I really really really wanna run it against your 870. Gonna lose, but its great content.
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As little as I shoot my gauge you might not lose.
I also have a pistol grip for it so we could run one pump style against the other.. I am down, just don't spend too much on it.
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yeah dude we wouldnt stear you wrong. if your getting shit from several members on the forum on something like this its likely they are only trying to help you not waste your money. glad you came around and realized its just a fun attachment. now that you know that i see nothing wrong with buying it for that purpose if youve got the money for it. i just hate to see guys lose money on something like this when they really thought it was an effective tool.
another thing i dont think ive ever seen anyone mention on these types of forends like this one and the broomstick style is... id imagine your poor little action gets its ass whooped when your slamming that thing with all the force your able to inflict on it with that kind of a grip. maybe it dosent hurt it at all.. but its something ive always thought of with those types of forends. i could totally see me using one and the forend just keeps going off the end of the gun when it finally snaps SOMEWHERE.
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As little as I shoot my gauge you might not lose.
I also have a pistol grip for it so we could run one pump style against the other.. I am down, just don't spend too much on it.
I'll race you both. 8)
~KP
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Don't run against each other. Run against yourself and don't sandbag. Choose a drill which requires both a speed and an accuracy measure.
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Dave...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68VXKMZT1Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68VXKMZT1Q)
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Dave...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68VXKMZT1Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68VXKMZT1Q)
If I get that because I post useful info instead of dick measuring with nothing learned I'll take shitty-ass 'family guy' commentary all day.
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No Dave you are right, its a horrible add on and a race is never a good way to figure out what works and what doesn't you need the consistency of one shooter doing his/her best.
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Dave...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68VXKMZT1Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f68VXKMZT1Q)
If I get that because I post useful info instead of dick measuring with nothing learned I'll take shitty-ass 'family guy' commentary all day.
you got that because you killed the fun... but it would be ok if the info you gave was actually good advice.
Competition is th best way to further your skills in anything. the more people involved the better. ive never heard of anyone losing to themselves and then that modivating them to work harder to beat themselves. if you only compete with your own speed and accuracy all youll end up doing is reaching a level your content with and accepting that as the best. in a mall ninja world thats fine...but if you truely want to constantly improve your skills then competition is the way to do it. the more people involved the better because theres a greater chance of having more skilled people involved. theres a reason why professional sports constantly creates new records year after year...the competition gets tougher every year. if koby bryant was playing basketball all by his lonesome all the time i doubt hed be nearly as good as he is through modivation driven by competition. now im not saying just compete in random bullshit... obviously you still want to have the speed and accuracy involved in this competition aswell.
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you got that because you killed the fun... but it would be ok if the info you gave was actually good advice.
Competition is th best way to further your skills in anything. the more people involved the better. ive never heard of anyone losing to themselves and then that modivating them to work harder to beat themselves. if you only compete with your own speed and accuracy all youll end up doing is reaching a level your content with and accepting that as the best. in a mall ninja world thats fine...but if you truely want to constantly improve your skills then competition is the way to do it. the more people involved the better because theres a greater chance of having more skilled people involved. theres a reason why professional sports constantly creates new records year after year...the competition gets tougher every year. if koby bryant was playing basketball all by his lonesome all the time i doubt hed be nearly as good as he is through modivation driven by competition. now im not saying just compete in random bullshit... obviously you still want to have the speed and accuracy involved in this competition aswell.
I did give good advice. You don't have to go on at length about the benefits of competition--I [mostly] agree with you. I always advise to go shooting with someone who is significantly better than you in at least some areas. Run competitive drills, have fun, plus you'll learn from the better shooter.
What I was saying is that competition against someone else with a different setup (in this case, a PGO shotty versus a dumb-looking shotty ;) wielded by two different people) is a piss-poor way to assess how well a particular widget works.
If you want to determine if a product is negative, neutral, or positive, it's best to run drills on the clock like I said.
No Dave you are right, its a horrible add on and a race is never a good way to figure out what works and what doesn't you need the consistency of one shooter doing his/her best.
Well I'm glad someone got it... if no one else did then I might think I wasn't being clear enough.
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you got that because you killed the fun... but it would be ok if the info you gave was actually good advice.
Competition is th best way to further your skills in anything. the more people involved the better. ive never heard of anyone losing to themselves and then that modivating them to work harder to beat themselves. if you only compete with your own speed and accuracy all youll end up doing is reaching a level your content with and accepting that as the best. in a mall ninja world thats fine...but if you truely want to constantly improve your skills then competition is the way to do it. the more people involved the better because theres a greater chance of having more skilled people involved. theres a reason why professional sports constantly creates new records year after year...the competition gets tougher every year. if koby bryant was playing basketball all by his lonesome all the time i doubt hed be nearly as good as he is through modivation driven by competition. now im not saying just compete in random bullshit... obviously you still want to have the speed and accuracy involved in this competition aswell.
I did give good advice. You don't have to go on at length about the benefits of competition--I [mostly] agree with you. I always advise to go shooting with someone who is significantly better than you in at least some areas. Run competitive drills, have fun, plus you'll learn from the better shooter.
What I was saying is that competition against someone else with a different setup (in this case, a PGO shotty versus a dumb-looking shotty ;) wielded by two different people) is a piss-poor way to assess how well a particular widget works.
If you want to determine if a product is negative, neutral, or positive, it's best to run drills on the clock like I said.
No Dave you are right, its a horrible add on and a race is never a good way to figure out what works and what doesn't you need the consistency of one shooter doing his/her best.
Well I'm glad someone got it... if no one else did then I might think I wasn't being clear enough.
yeah you were being perfectly clear. and it had nothing to do with advocating competition... hell of a save though... like i said..killed the fun and bad info.
maybe ill be called a troll or an asshole for what im typing but i dont care... these are the facts and i wont tolerate the fake BS. id say the same thing if you were standing infront of me. if were trying to keep the info on this forum trim and accurate then lets get to it already. and lets remind all members that anything typed by anyone on here is strictly opinion and should ALWAYS be taken with a grain of salt. this is a perfect example of why. and im wrong plenty too so im safegaurding members from my own errors aswell.
-Kenny
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I've changed my mind about this product.
Ken, you should buy at least two of em'.
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I've changed my mind about this product.
Ken, you should buy at least two of em'.
LOL, that's funny! Ken, please make a video when you get them.
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I've changed my mind about this product.
Ken, you should buy at least two of em'.
LOL, that's funny! Ken, please make a video when you get them.
lol ok... i will get one for a mossberg and one for an 870... i will run them only agianst the clock. in the end both of them will get a gold medal and 2 gold stars. competition tends to hurt peoples feelings, theres no losers here.
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My recommendation would be to spend as much money on them as possible.