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Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA
« on: July 12, 2025, 09:57:16 AM »

The conflict that some foresee will likely begin as an urban phenomenon. This is due, in part, to the ease of clashing with authorities and the ability to quickly blend back into the urban environment. Picture "flash mob battles"-rapid, coordinated skirmishes that exploit the density and anonymity of cities. In areas like Los Angeles, Chicago, or St. Louis, these clashes could escalate to the intensity of Fallujah-level conflicts, particularly in cities governed by progressive or left-leaning councils and mayors. Will New York City be added to that list?

Why will these battles primarily occur in urban centers?

> Guerrilla tactics thrive in dense environments, allowing rapid strikes and retreats.
> Ideological alignment: Some urban populations may sympathize with collectivist ideologies, such as Marxism's
   principle of "from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs." - Karl Marx
> Anonymity: Urban dwellers often don't know their neighbors, making it easier for agitators to operate
   undetected.
> Technology facilitates coordination, enabling rapid communication and mobilization.
> Dense infrastructure provides cover and opportunities for kinetic engagements with authorities.

Why will flash mob battles be less prevalent in rural areas?

> Sparse landscapes make it harder to disappear after an attack.
> Community cohesion: Rural residents often know their neighbors, making it difficult for outsiders to hide.
> Conservative values dominate, reducing sympathy for radical ideologies.
> Willingness to use force: Rural communities may be quicker to employ lethal measures in self-defense.
> Limited infrastructure reduces opportunities for large-scale coordinated attacks.

Using a scale of 1-10 where 1 is unlikely and 10 is most likely, I have put together a simple chart for urban vs. rural conflict.

Factor                            Urban Score  Rural Score  Notes
------------------------- ------------ ------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------
Guerrilla Tactics                   9            3            Urban density enables hit-and-run; rural openness limits cover.
Ideological Alignment           6            4            Urban areas may have Marxist sympathy; rural areas lean     
                                                                     conservative.
Anonymity                          8            2            Urban anonymity aids agitators; rural neighbors know each other.
Technology/Communication  9            4            Urban tech infrastructure supports coordination; rural areas less
                                                                     connected.
Infrastructure                      8            3            Urban cover (buildings) aids conflict; rural sparsity limits
                                                                     opportunities.
Community Cohesion           3            9            Urban anonymity reduces cohesion; rural communities are tight-
                                                                       knit.
Willingness to Use Force       5            8            Rural areas more likely to use lethal force; urban area not so
                                                                     much.

Will urban battles spill into suburbia?

Yes, and this could mark a turning point. Suburban residents, unaccustomed to such violence, will likely demand government intervention. Consider the Second Battle of Fallujah, which, while confined to one province, required six weeks to resolve. A nationwide urban conflict across multiple cities would be far more complex, straining resources and testing the resilience of both urban and suburban communities. Ultimately, suburban backlash could undermine the urban push for radical ideologies.

As already brought up in the post, Left Changes Strategy Moving to a Kinetic Play, we can already see the seeds of urban battles sprouting. To only become a thriving garden in the near future

What are your thoughts?
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Re: Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2025, 07:43:17 AM »
Slightly different play but probably orchestrated by the same group of people happening in Spain today. I would suggest that it is a bit easier in Spain due in part to lack of firearm ownership.

https://x.com/i/status/1944161345890296205

Our founding fathers were brilliant to include the 2A into our Bill of Rights. In the end, the 2A will save the republic.  :gunner:

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Re: Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2025, 08:13:00 AM »
Due to the access of firearms, it?ll probably be bloodier here.  However, a firearm is an equalizer of deadly force, so folks will at least have a chance of self defense. I suspect we?ll see the balkanization of the U.S., but it?ll be more urban versus rural.  Shutdown the food supply and electricity and see how long the cities last.  Cannibalism will be prevalent. 

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Re: Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2025, 02:41:11 PM »
Re: urban vs rural, for all the talk from cities of how the 'deplorables' living in trailers in "fly over country" are so stupid, once COVID was said to be on top of their cities, those with the means sure bailed out of the cities , heading into rural areas for food and safety.  Locusts with advanced degrees and expensive cars are still locusts.
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Re: Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2025, 03:03:49 PM »
Yup. Wayne County, east of me, butts right up against the Delaware River. On the other side lie New York State and, just beyond, New Jersey. There are plenty of RV campgrounds on both the Pennsylvania and New York sides of the river, stretching down from Hancock, NY to Narrowsburg, NY.

Long story short, those campgrounds filled up with campers from New York City, Long Island, and northern New Jersey in May and June of 2020 just past the Covid-19 lockdown. They didn't leave until the fall of 2021, just before school started back up.

Many displaced students went to private boarding schools but if that was not in the budget they went to local schools during the 2020-21 school year. This added to the classroom size and expenses of the schools. People worked from their RV via the internet and only went back to their homes or local jobs locations as needed.

Businesses in the area thrived during this time, but now many are for sale. Taxes in Wayne County spiked to support the population surge, and now locals are stuck with that hefty tax burden. As we all know, taxes never go down. To this day the locals talk about this period as being invaded by flatlanders.  :pissed:

So, like Sir John wrote, I suspect when the Urban Battles begin, we will see Escape from New York Redux. By the way, sequels are never as good as the original. 

Stay tuned,
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Re: Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2025, 07:32:20 PM »
Two major problems arose during that time:
1. Resource exhaustion. We have ONE grocery store in this entire county. We had one guy in front of us buy $1300 ( $2600 today ?)  of groceries to stock his hobby house in this county. We are the last stop the supply chain and this chain is not meant for the huge Increase in purchases/demand at their one county grocery store.  There is nothing wrong with stocking up, but shelves were already thin and if it come to feeding our own neighbors or feeding the masses who did nothing for years, even with excellent city salaries to stock-up ( prep ) I know the sentiment here is clear. 

2. Increased crime, petit crimes and infract I ons go WAAAAAY up even on a normal.weekend when tourists drive as if they are back in cities.  Major crime also became a problem as thugs from Baltimore/DC came home to live their Baby Mommas and  as criminals up there, they continued being criminals down hard.   Our local deputies handled that.  The radio scanner was filled with calls, birglaries, high speed chases, the occasional shooting.

If cities go TEOTWAWKI , I would hope for COUNTY border guards at every bridge to tell non-residents to turn it around the return to Baltimore/DC. 
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Re: Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2025, 11:00:27 AM »
Interesting comments Sir John especially, "If cities go TEOTWAWKI , I would hope for COUNTY border guards at every bridge to tell non-residents to turn it around the return to Baltimore/DC."

Many moons ago a subscriber to UP offered me a intel assessment to the redoubt. He was retired Army Intel guy so I vetted him and gave him my location. In short, he sent me an 8-page assessment.

Some things from the report were,

1) Our redoubt is located in a great defensive position. There is only two ways into or out of. Easy to close off.
    Recommendation was to; sure up relationships with the folks who live along the road.
2) Have a plan to cut off the ingress and control the egress of our small town of under 1,000 people.
    Recommendation; Get involved in the community via local government or volunteer fire dept. looking to the
    future of being one of the elders of the community for planning when the SHTF.
3) With a major small city being only 30 miles north of my AO and small town, have a plan ready for discouraging
    hordes of refugees stopping in our county.
    Recommendation; Participate in county CERT, RACES, and/or ARES groups. This will give us intel that may not
    be widely disseminated. Also, it will give me the ability to have a voice in county wide decisions in a SHTF
    drama.

I share this information for you to start working on your SHTF plan if you haven't already started. ✌
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Re: Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2025, 11:32:14 AM »
At our new AO, we live on a ridge, high above a major valley. I?ve been told by a number of longtime residents, that the main  road to access our area has been mined which would discourage city folk attempting to reach our area.  It?s a switchback type of road,so it wouldn?t take much to make it impassable.  Heck, it?s often closed due to rockslides.

There?s also been talk of blasting a section of the road that provides direct access to our neighborhood which crosses a creek. So people in the area are considering problems that are caused by an influx of refugees.  There are downsides to having only one access road, like what happens in the event of a wildfire?  So, bottlenecks can assist with security, but they can also be a problem.  Planning is a major factor when dealing with defensive issues.  As Johny alluded, it?s important that your neighbors are all informed and involved.  This brings up the question, what do you do with neighbors that aren?t on the same page?  Go with a consensus?  In a SHTF situation, how do you deal with dissenting opinions from neighbors? At what point do they become a security threat?  Do you banish them or place them under house arrest?  It?s going to take a number of personnel to watch them if they?re under house arrest.  It?s best to think about these issues now while life is good, rather than during the heat of a crisis.

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Re: Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA
« Reply #8 on: September 18, 2025, 01:14:32 PM »
Following the Charlie Kirk assassination, I have been sharing additional posts with my MAG (Mutual Assistance Group) along these lines: We have transitioned from underground to aboveground UW (Unconventional Warfare).

Here is a chart of what our SOF (Special Forces) use while learning and then how to deal with UW.


I will also add to this post a good short YT video by NC Scout that talks briefly to this chart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPGzqBJhef8

Consider the PSYOP (Psychological Operations) conducted by elements within the government aiming for a Color Revolution in the USA. I see examples of this daily. Please verify information with multiple trusted sources before believing or sharing it.

We currently have one foot in 'Information Operations Warfare' and the other in 'low-level guerrilla warfare,' often called 'Fifth-Generation Warfare,' which blends information, perception, and a touch of kinetic action. The goal appears to be provoking the silent majority into violence - a progressive fantasy.

I'm diving into a rabbit hole that could fill a 45-minute lecture followed by a 45-minute discussion.

Bottom line: Be cautious about what you read and whom you listen to. Question everything. As a side note: 'They' are targeting Kash Patel now, as he and the FBI are getting too close to the truth. Remember, this is PSYOP.  ;)

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