Thoughts on Civil War

[Jackalope]

   I?ve been reflecting on recent events and how life may change in the future.  Trump?s recent victory may have provided a brief respite from the Left?s attacks, but all indications are that the Left is already preparing to counteract whatever Trump does.  It seems that Illinois, California, New York, and New Jersey are being vocal about opposing Trump?s policies, yet Trump hasn?t even outlined his proposals.  Leticia James and New York governor Hochel have both expressed their discontent with Trump, and Trump?s attorney?s response is a classic.

     It should be stressed that most of the opposition within the States originates from urban areas.  I?m just hoping we don?t see a replay of Trump?s first presidency.  In any case, Trump?s policies, such as deporting illegal invaders is definitely going to upset some people. 

     I can see some parallels with the first civil war.  We have some States that wish to do their own thing.  We see policies that will strike families directly, i.e., deportations.  I know many legal immigrants that are fed up with the border shenanigans.  It?s going to be interesting to see how this plays out.

     It?s time that Trump deals directly with those who are really inciting sedition and treason.  Set up a streamlined system of trials, and if the suspects are convicted, impose the penalty as quickly as possible, eliminate the endless appeals.  We don?t need illegal migrant camps, we just need those folks to be shipped back to wherever they originated. 

     People are tired of the woke b.s., they want to live, work, and love in peace and harmony.

[grizz]

 

[JohnyMac]

Yeah jackalope, is this the lull before the storm?

At my usual Sunday Breakfast, all attendees where MAGA supporters however, all expressed concerns that things have been eerily quiet.

Stay tuned I guess,

 

[Felix]

A genuine, justice and retribution, full-throated roar would hurt the wokester's ears.
It would also be music to the _landslide_ voter's ears.
 But most of all, it would be the best if not only way to destroy or at least defenestrate to some degree, the Swamp "Elite".
And the bonus might be, _their_ side might have to use some of their own money against the bottomless wallet of Uncle Sam, a reverse of what was done to Trump and allies.
If high officials in the Pentagon and our 3-letter agencies aren't severely punished, the ongoing moral hazards of sedition-for-private-gain will remain in place.
Milley, for example.    Order him back to active duty,   Then Courts Martial him,  Busted in rank if not actually tossed into confinement, escaping the traitor's noose.   (his call to Chinese counterpart assuring of "warning" if Trump was about to "do something")

[Sir John Honeybucket]

Oh Felix, Televised/live streamed political defenestration would be GRAND!  Tossing swamp creatures from the highest window at the top of the Trump Tower would be a real morale booster and relieve a lot of pent-up tension.  I have a bit of history in what is now called The Czech Republic, so the defenestrations of Prague come to mind. I appreciate the historical link. Bohemians know how to have a good time while creating political change.

[Felix]

 
To televised defenestrations!

[Jackalope]

I?m still concerned about the possibility of a civil war. Kurt Schlicter also presents some of his concerns: https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2025/07/17/can-we-get-out-of-this-without-a-civil-war-n2660460

You can?t argue with a liberal, they don?t understand facts and logic. 

[Sir John Honeybucket]

Video Series, Forward Observes on YT.

https://youtu.be/9vHUawhU87A?si=c0YC-yhhcTobm2Uk

[Jackalope]

Good video, Sir John.

In light of the revelations by DNI Gabbard regarding Obama?s involvement with the Russiagate Hoax, it would be reasonable to surmise that the possibility of a civil war just increased.  Trump mentioned recently that military tribunals might be necessary soon, looks like a reality.  The government needs a good house cleaning.

[JohnyMac]

First, thank you Jackalope for starting this thread. Also, thanks to all who are participating in the thread with additional links that focus on the subject at hand.

Just a few comments from my perspective.

We are currently in a precarious situation-like a frog in a pot of water on a stove, with the temperature slowly rising. Many people are not taking the time to look beyond mainstream media (MSM), cable news, or social media to see the bigger picture. Imagine watching a Sunday football game: the camera above the field captures the entire play, revealing patterns and strategies that the players on the ground might miss. The broader perspective is always different.

Western society has entered a period of "low-intensity conflict" - sporadic, localized unrest that disrupts public order without escalating to outright war. Recent events in Los Angeles are a precursor to what may spread to other Democrat/Socialist/Marxist-led cities. As I discussed in my recent post on Unchainedpreppers (UP), titled Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA, this is how things may unfold. One critical point raised in that discussion is that urban centers do not produce essential resources like food, fuel, or other necessities. As a result, these low-intensity conflicts will likely spill into suburban and rural areas to "feed the beast." At that point, the situation could escalate into a full-blown civil war.

This is just food for thought.

Predicting timelines is challenging, and I've been wrong about them before. I'm surprised we haven't seen a higher degree of low-intensity conflict already. One possible reason is the public's support for government policies, such as deporting illegal immigrants, which may be dampening unrest. This seems to perplex groups like ANTIFA, who might have expected more resistance from the citizenry. As a result, we should anticipate an escalation in low-intensity conflicts. Watch for significant, orchestrated events-potentially instigated by groups like ANTIFA-to provoke broader public unrest and draw people into the streets.

It's time to step back and observe the situation from above the playing field, not from within the chaos. Share your concerns with family and friends, and stay vigilant. Continue preparing with the four B's: Beans, Band-Aids, Bullets, and Bible.

[grizz]

First, thank you Jackalope for starting this thread. Also, thanks to all who are participating in the thread with additional links that focus on the subject at hand.

Just a few comments from my perspective.

We are currently in a precarious situation-like a frog in a pot of water on a stove, with the temperature slowly rising. Many people are not taking the time to look beyond mainstream media (MSM), cable news, or social media to see the bigger picture. Imagine watching a Sunday football game: the camera above the field captures the entire play, revealing patterns and strategies that the players on the ground might miss. The broader perspective is always different.

Western society has entered a period of "low-intensity conflict" - sporadic, localized unrest that disrupts public order without escalating to outright war. Recent events in Los Angeles are a precursor to what may spread to other Democrat/Socialist/Marxist-led cities. As I discussed in my recent post on Unchainedpreppers (UP), titled Urban Warfare - Flash Mob Battles in the USA, this is how things may unfold. One critical point raised in that discussion is that urban centers do not produce essential resources like food, fuel, or other necessities. As a result, these low-intensity conflicts will likely spill into suburban and rural areas to "feed the beast." At that point, the situation could escalate into a full-blown civil war.

This is just food for thought.

Predicting timelines is challenging, and I've been wrong about them before. I'm surprised we haven't seen a higher degree of low-intensity conflict already. One possible reason is the public's support for government policies, such as deporting illegal immigrants, which may be dampening unrest. This seems to perplex groups like ANTIFA, who might have expected more resistance from the citizenry. As a result, we should anticipate an escalation in low-intensity conflicts. Watch for significant, orchestrated events-potentially instigated by groups like ANTIFA-to provoke broader public unrest and draw people into the streets.

It-s time to step back and observe the situation from above the playing field, not from within the chaos. Share your concerns with family and friends, and stay vigilant. Continue preparing with the four B's: Beans, Band-Aids, Bullets, and Bible.

 

There are two commies running for mayoral positions, one in NYC and I dont recall the other city. Plus there are probably a few more that are not getting reported. The worst thing about them running is that they actually have support from the ignorant idiots in those cities and they will probably win

Next year we celebrate the 250th anniversary of becoming a free Country, I'm beginning to think that will not happen...

[Nemo]

Next year celebrations will be in July, elections not until November.

250 will occur.  The main question is will there be a 251?

Nemo

[grizz]

Next year celebrations will be in July, elections not until November.

250 will occur.  The main question is will there be a 251?

Nemo

I meant the rhetoric will grow and create more violence which will encourage more "leaders" to cancel the celebrations. And that violence will be deadly as we are currently seeing against ICE and other LEO's

[Nemo]

But no worry, everything will be cool and fun and civil.  That great Democrat strategist James (widely regarded all knowing guru) Carville says it will be a civilized civil war.  But Dems are steamrolling straight toward it.

Nemo

https://www.foxnews.com/media/james-carville-rips-democrats-lack-unity-warns-party-steamrolling-toward-civilized-civil-war

[pkveazey]

Years ago, when I was a teenager, I was a Civil War Buff and learned as much as possible about the war and collecting relics. Here's something that most people don't know. The first battle of the Civil War was not the firing on Fort Sumpter in Charleton, SC. in 1861. The first battle was fought in 1858 when a group in Arkansas formed a small army and attacked a town in Missouri. Just like today, it started off small and slowly escalated. Now, as to the reason Fort Sumpter was fired upon. The Federal Government kept raising tariff rates on goods coming from Europe. As best I recall, 45% was the breaking point and Charleston refused to collect the tariff because all the money was being spent on building the North's Industrial Complex and the South got nothing. When SC seceded, followed by other States, one of President Lincolns advisors asked him why he didn't just let the South secede? His answer was, "Then who would pay for everything?" History might not exactly repeat itself, but it certainly rhymes. Do I think there will be a second Civil War? Yep, and it will start slow and then speed up. Even we preppers are going to get caught up in the mess that's coming.

[grizz]

Years ago, when I was a teenager, I was a Civil War Buff and learned as much as possible about the war and collecting relics. Here's something that most people don't know. The first battle of the Civil War was not the firing on Fort Sumpter in Charleton, SC. in 1861. The first battle was fought in 1858 when a group in Arkansas formed a small army and attacked a town in Missouri. Just like today, it started off small and slowly escalated. Now, as to the reason Fort Sumpter was fired upon. The Federal Government kept raising tariff rates on goods coming from Europe. As best I recall, 45% was the breaking point and Charleston refused to collect the tariff because all the money was being spent on building the North's Industrial Complex and the South got nothing. When SC seceded, followed by other States, one of President Lincolns advisors asked him why he didn't just let the South secede? His answer was, "Then who would pay for everything?" History might not exactly repeat itself, but it certainly rhymes. Do I think there will be a second Civil War? Yep, and it will start slow and then speed up. Even we preppers are going to get caught up in the mess that's coming.

I believe its already started but moving at such a slow pace most dont recognize it or refuse to see it.

For instance
- look at all the American haters in the fed govt now?
- Look at all the corruption being exposed yet no one is held accountable
- Look at all the violence against LEO's at all levels and very few if any are held accountable
- Look at the lies and brainwashing from media outlets
- Look at every level of the educational system brainwashing the students

[JohnyMac]

The cities will burn like smoldering tire fires if an indictment comes out against Obama. Not that an indictment would be unexpected, just because the left will need it to ignite the 10-12% of radical Marxists in the country. Add to that percentage, what is the amount of illegal aliens here that were male and military age?



Necklacing coming to a urban center near you. It's all about terror.

Thinking back to my history classes a few moons ago, the Bolshevik lead revolution of 1917-18, I think that the revolutionaries only had 10-15% support amongst the populous.